Dialogue on Krishnamurti’s Teachings

reflective classroom used for dialogueOur dialogue is typically based on a passage from a book or a talk by Krishnamurti, and is held in the Reflective Classroom.

Open to all parents, staff and guests. No RSVP required.

The schedule for dialogue is:
Monday, 4:30-6:00pm
Thursday, 7:00-7:45am
Friday, 1:00-2:00pm

Reminder: This space is free of technology, shoes, food, and drinks.

Note: Following the week of December 9, the next dialogue will be after Winter break, the week of January 13.

The passage for the week of December 9 —

Capacity is Limited by Desire
From chapter 15 of The Whole Movement of Life is Learning 

We are still concerned with the wholeness of the mind. The mind includes the senses, the erratic emotions, the capacity of the brain and ever-restless thought. All this is the mind, including various attributes of consciousness. When the whole mind is in operation, it is boundless; it has great energy and action without the shadow of regret and promise of reward. This quality of mind, this wholeness, is intelligence. Can this be conveyed to the student and can she or he be helped to grasp its significance quickly? Surely it is the responsibility of the educator to bring this about.

The capacity of thought is shaped and controlled by desire, so the capacity is narrowed down. This capacity is limited by the movement of desire. Desire is the essence of sensation. Ambition limits the capacity of the brain, which is thought. This capacity is restricted by social and economic demands or by one’s own experience and motive. It is narrowed down by an ideal, by the sanctions of various religious beliefs, by unending fear. Fear is not separate from pleasure.

Desire,the essence of sensation, is shaped by environment, by tradition, by our own inclinations and temperament, and thus capacity or action that demands total energy is conditioned according to our comfort and pleasure. Desire is a compelling factor in our lives, not to be suppressed or evaded, not to be cajoled and reasoned with, but rather to be understood. This understanding can come into being only through the investigation of desire and the observation of its movement. Knowing the impelling fire of desire, most religious and sectarian prohibitions have made it into something that must be suppressed, controlled or surrendered-handed over as it were-to a deity or principle. The innumerable vows that people have taken to deny desire totally have in no way burned it out. It is there.

So, we must approach it differently, bearing in mind that intelligence is not awakened by desire. A desire to go to the moon brings about enormous technical knowledge, but that knowledge is limited intelligence. Knowledge is always specialized and therefore incomplete; but we are talking of intelligence, which is the movement of the wholeness of the mind. It is with this intelligence that we are concerned and with the awakening of it in both the educator and the student.

As we said earlier, capacity is limited by desire. Desire is sensation: the sensation of new experiences, of new forms of excitement, the sensation of climbing the highest peaks on earth, the sensation of power, of status. All this limits the energy of the brain. Desire gives the illusion of security, and the brain, which needs security, encourages and sustains every form of desire. If we do not understand the place of desire, it brings about degeneration of the mind. This is really important to understand. Thought is the movement of this desire. Curiosity to discover is urged on by a desire for greater sensations and the illusory certainty of security. Curiosity has brought the enormous amount of knowledge which has its importance in our daily life. Curiosity has significance in observation.

Thought may be the central factor of degeneration of the mind, whereas insight opens the door to the wholeness of action. We will go into the full meaning of insight in another letter but for now we must consider whether thought is destructive to the wholeness of the mind. We have made the statement that it is; but do not accept it until you have thoroughly, freely examined it.

What we mean by wholeness of the mind is infinite capacity and total emptiness in which there is immeasurable energy. Thought, by its very nature being limited, imposes its narrowness on the whole, and so thought is always in the forefront. Thought is limited because it is the outcome of memory and knowledge accumulated through experience. Knowledge is the past; that which has been is always limited. remembrance may project a future, but that future is tied to the past. So thought is always limited. Thought is measurable-the more and the less, the larger and the smaller. This measurement is the movement of time: I have been, I shall be. When thought predominates, however subtly, cunningly and vitally, it perverts wholeness. But we have given to thought the greatest importance.

If one may ask, after having read this letter, have you grasped the significance of the nature of thought and the wholeness of the mind? If you have, can you convey this to the student who is your total responsibility? This is a difficult matter. If you have no light you cannot help another to have it. You may explain very clearly or define it in chosen words, but it will not have the passion of truth.